Is this for the birds?

I am listening to an interview from the Institute of Sacred Arts of St. Vladimir's Orthodox Seminary in New York. David Rothenburg, philosopher/clarinetist/composer, shares his thoughts about some of his work involving performing with creatures of the natural world (and then later composing also adding electronic sounds). It is quite interesting and I am sure there are many of you who would enjoy listening to it! https://www.instituteofsacredarts.com/luminous/2021/2/10/rothenberg